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I found this on the liveATC forums:

A jet carrying 286 passengers slammed on its brakes and aborted a take-off this week at Kennedy Airport after another plane began taxiing towards the runway it was using, the Federal Aviation Administration said on Wednesday.

Lufthansa Flight 411 was cleared for take-off and EgyptAir Flight 986 was instructed to stay behind a “hold line”, 250 feet behind the runway, at 6.50pm on Monday, said FAA spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen. The EgyptAir crossed the line but did not enter the runway, she said.

“When air traffic control saw that, it cancelled the take-off for Lufthansa,” Bergen said, adding that the Lufthansa plane stopped “a considerable distance” from the EgyptAir jet.
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In radio recordings posted on the website LiveATC.net, a controller in the JFK tower is heard giving take-off clearance to the Lufthansa flight while another controller directs the EgyptAir plane.

“No! Whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa!” shouts someone in the tower as the EgyptAir plane crosses the hold-short line.

“Cancel take-off! Cancel take-off plans!” a controller shouts to the Lufthansa jet.

The Lufthansa plane, an Airbus A340, slammed on its brakes and came to a stop. Then it taxied off the runway. The pilot told controllers he was worried his brakes may have overheated, so controllers sent a Port Authority crew to help check the plane’s landing gear.

“That was quite a show. Thought it was going to be a short career,” a pilot who witnessed the aborted takeoff remarked on the radio.

The FAA was looking at “pilot deviation” because the EgyptAir plane, a Boeing 777, didn’t follow air traffic instructions.

“The pilot was instructed to turn onto another taxiway but did not,” Bergen said.

She said the FAA is investigating and will determine how close the two planes came.

EgyptAir officials said they had no knowledge of the close call.

The Lufthansa flight was heading to Munich, airline spokesman Martin Riecken said. After the takeoff was halted, the captain returned to the gate for a maintenance check while the passengers remained on the plane. The fight departed about two hours later, Riecken said.

There were no reports of injuries.

The New York Post reported that the EgyptAir flight was bound for Cairo. It was not immediately known how many people it was carrying. It departed about 90 minutes afterwards.

Bergen said investigators will listen to air traffic communications and look at radar replay.

Aviation authorities are increasingly worried about the danger of runway collisions as planes get bigger and airports more congested. In December a JetBlue plane took a wrong turn at Boston’s Logan Airport and nearly taxied onto a runway where another plane was taking off.

The deadliest crash in aviation history was a runway collision. In 1977 a KLM Boeing 747 crashed into a Pan Am 747 on the same runway in Tenerife, in the Canary Islands, killing 583 people.

Wow, I had no idea! That’s intense.

Here are some other things I found…

” Thank goodness for good visibility. Something like this happens under IFR day or night, with low RVR, and you’re looking at another Tenerife.”
“You can hear the commotion in the ground recording. It’s unreal.”

Someone had also linked the Youtube recording someone made of the Lufthansa captain’s announcement… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8_yK7Twz8E

Most of it is in German. I am meant to be learning German. Oh, that sucks. Looks like I’ve been slaving away at modalverbs and past participles for four years for nothing, eh? I didn’t understand a word of it 😛

He did repeat it in English afterwards though (or ‘aftervards’, I guess it should be in German) “There was another airplane intruding the runway. (Insert ‘OOOH’ from male passenger) in front of us, that is why we aborted the take off, so we would not hit the other airplane.”


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Really? What was it? What happened?!?! Inquiring minds need to know!

At JFK, on the liveATC interesting recordings, there was a cancelled departure. Lufthansa 411 aborted their take-off after “Wow, that was quite a show,” says one pilot. “Yeah, okay, we all saw what happened, we don’t need to talk about it on the frequencies, there are people, er…” says the controller, and stops. NO!!! There are people what? Listening? Like me? So now I am curious… anyone out there who was there? Tell me! TELL!! lau

I was listening to JFK yesterday too. JFK is so cute. I kid you not! There was a massive rush going on. Something had obviously happened to delay the flights, and the controller was in a frenzy trying to keep the line moving. “If you need two minutes, tell me now! Cos if it’s two minutes I’m going to put someone else there!!” “Air France 1023, you can start that second engine now.” “Dynasty 5391, pull up to the Air France in front of you. Pull right up to him.” “Air France 1023, please pull up in line.” “FOLLOW THE AMERICAN EAGLE EMBRAER.” “American 257!!! If you are on Charlie, you should be started up and ready to go. Your line is moving. PLEASE pull up as close as possible to the traffic in front.” (What an awesome day! :D)

Wait for it! Wait for it! I have a GFM on BYC! Someone has gifted me a GFM! I don’t believe it! Humble little me… it’s still a bit weird seeing my name there in orange. I have seen so many people turning golden and thought, hey, that would be pretty awesome. My inbox status has jumped from 98% to 39%!!!! I can keep PMing with Erbil and Spocketatus now, if I can ever be bothered replying to either. I have been doing so much replying today my creative juices appear to have run a bit dry. Sorry!

I find it fantastic how we can gift GFMs. It really allows you to show your appreciation for another member of the chicken nerdom population. What have I done that’s so good? Is is because I’ve started welcoming recently? I hang around so many places, I honestly have no idea whether the culprit is from RR, GJF, Family Life, or maybe even the Aussies’ thread! But whoever you are… gratefulness to the extreme!

I must, of course, now pick a title for myself. I decided on “Out of the blue”. The GFM, my username, my arrival on the forum… (must’ve looked that way 😉 I always end up looking awkward and too forward online at first.)

Qantas is in danger of ending up on a path critics say is practically a mirror-image of Ansett’s collapse. Poor Qantas, who have slipped to #8 on the World’s Top Airlines. Qatar, meanwhile, have claimed the top spot. Where even is that? I think it’s near the Emirates, #10. The middle east has been rather binary this year. Asiana is #3: I haven’t heard of them before. Cathay, #4: I like Cathay, they are a pretty decent airline.

Have you even seen Qantas’s shares recently? $1.80? I have a really hard time believing that a few years ago the things cost $4.20.

Airlines are really copping it hard from the ash cloud and those natural disasters. The earth has not been very kind to us recently. Oil is still, however, hanging around $90.

Ahah. Have any of you heard of Gina Rinehart? First woman to top Australia’s rich list. $10.3 billion. What on earth does she own, the United States of America?! (Actually, I wouldn’t, have you even SEEN their debt numbers? th)  Nope, apparently not. Just a humble mining company. Although they apparently have some pretty spectacular projects, with the same number on the top ten as Rio Tinto.

BHP Billiton, meanwhile, have none.


Okay, I’m going to stop warbling now. Over and out. – Lizzzzzzzzay.

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I love the Financial Review. Anyone with me?

I have been following diligently the articles about Virgin and Singapore forming a partnership. I was onto the story the day it came out on news.com.au (That site is epic. Y’all should give it a squiz) and gradually the release of this led to a nice article on the back of the Review about how John Borghetti has turned Virgin into a “real airline”.

I thought that was kind of cute.

I was actually surprised to hear that the dude has kept all the promises he made back when he became the CEO. When stories about Julia Gillard are reveberating around your skull all day, there’s not much you hear about people actually keeping their word. In my humble opinion, ABC news goes on way too much about politics.

Anyhow, back to what I was saying about Virgin: the new partnership is giving the airlines a combined total of 100 new destinations. I reckon Borghetti has done a pretty flashy job of getting connections set up all around the world: he couldn’t have picked better, really. Etihad, Air NZ, Delta and now Singapore… they’re practically everywhere that’s worth going! 😆 (Hey, they can fly to Europe from Singapore, so that doesn’t count, does it?)

I like how it says he respects the unions. Now we don’t hear of Virgin pilots and engineers threatening to go on strike, do we? *wink wink nudge nudge* Oh, the most funny part of the whole deal was that it happened the day after Malaysia joined OneWorld and Qantas had their eye on an alliance…. sucks to be Qantas right now. Shares are looking like [expletive]. :lau (Sorry, I would normally go out and say that, but I know there are people following my blog who would scold me for openly saying the D-word, let alone the S-word. :P)

Qantas and AA’s deal has been approved by the ACCC though, so they’re good to go. I find it funny how the two major Aussie airlines made friends with the two major American airlines… I guess that leaves out United and Jetblue, but surely nobody’s going to want to partner up with Tiger… I’ll take striking out alone anyday!

Interest rates have also stayed on hold for the sixth time in a row. I find it absolutely hysterical how they create all this hype (Oh, 100% chance of a raise!) and then it never happens. In fact, now it’s dropped to a 1% chance. 🙄 Indecisive, dithering economists.

It’s the same with the Qantas industrial action. They were building it up for weeks, even months, how they were considering doing it. Newspaper coverage built from page whatever to page 1… then what do they do at the last moment? yeah, they cancel it.

Anyhow! That’ll be all for my nonsensical rambling today…

Sweet baby Jesus!!!! POULTRYLAND is back up! :ep :th Arggghhhhh

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The point of everything we learn, and go through, and just DO.

I’m sure we’ve all heard of the saying “Everything happens for a reason”, but seriously? What if nothing happens? Does nothing happen for a reason too? I’d sure like to know what it is.

Life sometimes moves nowhere. Bank accounts move nowhere. Jobs move nowhere. Friendships, assignments, they all move nowhere.

The only thing that appears to be moving with increasing speed at such moments is time, which only seems to add to the stress. :he

I’ll stop being depressingly philosophical now. (The ‘philosophical’ part co

mes from boredom, the ‘depressingly’ from the mood I am in when I am bored.)

I recently wrote a movie script for Screnzy, at a friend’s encouragement. I am in love with it. I am editing it up nicely to use for a major school project (which, incidentally, is moving nowhere and due in four weeks!!!!) and some of the parts just have me in stitches. It’s a really sweet story though. Things comes together eventually at the end; here’s a bit from the “big scene”. (Millanie is one of the main characters who has ‘flash forwards’ and Tibby is the head steward and a friend she met over the internet who she has not seen face-to-face before this day.) The plane they are on is in trouble.


Bring the power down a bit, will ya? Look, the engines are surging…


Yeah, that’s a bit weird, you think it’s anything to be worried about?


I doubt it. Everything else is looking fine to me.

The COPILOT reaches forward to pull back on the throttles. Nothing happens. The engines continue to surge.


Okay, something’s definitely playing up here. We’re al

most there anyway, we’re about to hit final, then we can report this to maintenance and they’ll take care of it.


My God… they’re turning final.


(through radio)

Virgin 1544, turn right heading 020, maintain 2000 till established on the localiser, cleared ILS approach runway 4 right.

MILLANIE jumps into the cockpit. The PILOTS jump, startled.


Why don’t you listen to the other crew members for once? There’s something dodgy happening in the cabin, we can all hear it but you. You cannot land!

MILLANIE stumbles forward.


My golly, the girl’s drunk!


(in a very clear voice)

I’m not drunk. But I see that this plane is going to crash for certain if you go ahead with the approach.

The PILOT opens his mouth to argue, but TIBBY suddenly barges in behind MILLANIE.


Can’t see a warning sign when you’re given one!

He socks the PILOT across the head. The PILOT, being a small, unfit man, topples out of his seat, unconscious. MILLANIE falls forward over him, cracking her head on the instrument panel.


Come on, Stargirl. You’ve gotta save the plane. Put it on full throttle, we’ve got to get it higher off the ground.

The COPILOT stares at MILLANIE in shock. MILLANIE stares at TIBBY in shock.


(voice sounds blurred to Millanie)

Do it!

MILLANIE falls forward, losing her balance. She manages to grab hold of the throttles and collapses, forcing them forward.

The COPILOT is going into shock. He sits, stunned, as TIBBY lunges at the Captain’s seat and grabs ahold of the controls.


(to Copilot)

Well, do we have to do anything else with all these little knobs?

The engines whine noisily as they pick up power and the plane slowly begins to climb. TIBBY, unsure of what to do, pulls back hard on the controls. The land drops away below them.



Are you sure you’re not going to stall it?


Excuse me? How do I do that?

The COPILOT reaches out and tries to reclaim the controls.


What are you doing? No landing the plane! What have I told you already?!

TIBBY and the COPILOT fight over the controls over MILLANIE’s unconscious form.

The COPILOT eventually manages to push TIBBY out of the way, levelling the plane out. MILLANIE comes around, and the sudden change of pitch throws her forward so her head smashes into the instrument panel.


Ow… that… was incredibly painful.

The entire thing is here: http://scripped.com/script/view/132673 I still have no idea whether I am meant to write “CUT TO” anywhere or not: if anyone has any advice, please comment.

One last thought before I over and out on your all again: I’m in love with Tweeter, where we twit and yesterday we twat! 😀 Here are some of my favourite twits that have popped up on my feed recently:

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This is kinda cute.

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I’ve been neglecting American air traffic control.

Dallas Fortworth got hazy. I couldn’t hear anything. Think it’s got anything to do with those darned tornadoes that are whipping across the southern states? The poor people who copped the brunt of it. I’d hate to have a tornado come crashing through MY backyard, although it seems we’ve been getting tornadoes of water all across the city resulting in the cheerful task of navigating through a series of jovial small lakes on a trans-city journey in the dinky little car.

I’m having second thoughts about getting a car. My friend received a car for her birthday, and, judging by what’s popping up on Mobil boards, I feel a bit sorry for her.

Anyhow, back to what I was saying earlier. I had forgotten about New York. After things started getting slow at Sydney with all those different dudes in Approach who have various ways of saying Rrrrrex or Reeeex or whatever it happens to be (every man his own, eh?), I decided to hop over to New York, where I was pleasantly greeted with what appeared to be a reunion of all the flights I’d encountered on my very first trips over. Jetblue 811, Delta 493 – very exciting. Some of these guys were very memorable, and made a lasting impression on me.

And there they go saying “We’re cleared to go” and “Out on the breezy…”

I have a new Alistair MacLean book. It is called Where Eagles Dare. This must have been a man who has spent a lot of time in sub-zero Arctic conditions, or else he is someone who wishes he has. Either way, I really like his writing. I have spent a long time searching for someone who writes like this, yet is not wholly focused on crime, because things tend to get a bit gory in those books.

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Now, world. I think I have elaborated before on how this planet has been made so small by air travel! Well, the thing is, the internet’s probably made it even smaller. Being able to talk to people on the other side of the world?! It’s just insane, it’d probably take me 14+ hours to fly to people who may as well just be in the next room :th (Darn it, this isn’t BYC, is it?! :th :caf :frow :ep :weee)

And JFK? Well…. yeah, I doubt that would be able to fit into the next room. And the signal is kinda bad. Always wondered why I never missed anyone’s flight number here at Sydney! :gig (Stop it! :smack)

Director was on yesterday :weee (Okay, I give up. :rant) It means the controllers on the Approach frequency handle the flights directly before they land. It usually happens when it’s not so busy, during which times I am busy, and I always end up missing it. :caf There is a rather interesting “mystery word” I’ve noticed during the approach clearances, “Cleared for the visual runway 34-left on the ___s.” Still trying to figure it out.

I’ve been working on a Health and PE project. Something to do with healthy alternatives. Why we bother with this stuff, I don’t really know (I eat pretty healthy already) but I found this picture. It was absolutely hysterical. The expression on that bird’s face! :lau

Okay, over and out. Must go now. :frow

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